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lexzillaHuh. I've been flitting round lj reading some of the reaction posts to 'Dark Side of the Moon. Lots of interesting things being said, but reactions can be boiled down to three points of view:
1. YAY SPN!!
2. YAY SAM!! SPN SUCKS!!
3. YAY DEAN!! WOOT SPN!!
I'd like to think I fall into camp one. But it's possible there's a shade of camp three. So WARNING FOR EMOTIONAL ATTACHMENT BIAS.
Which probably leads to my first thought which is - how much of an episode do you think is written with Jensen's awesome ability to do close-ups in mind? If I had that face/ability to work with when I was writing something, you'd be damn sure it would show up a lot. And it does. And I see this not as a knock against Jared and more just a yay for Jensen. So, bias...
I've got to say, as sad and as hopeless as this episode was, I thought it was great. I know camp twoers were seeing Sam's memories as a way to further pull Sam from any emotional arc this season and as a dig against him, but I really saw it as consistent characterisation.
In Dean's 'I wuv hugs' [AWWWWWWW] memory, although it wasn't perfect, it was family and home and love and safety and Sam wasn't there. Sam didn't experience it. Sam was excluded from it. Sam's notion of family is all post John turns into a hunter. Yes he had Dean but it also had violence and abandonment and the fundamental notion that hunting comes first [again, I'll reiterate that this is fartherly learnings, not what he got from Dean, but Dad shapes the family] and he saw that version of family and thought 'meh'. Dean, on the other hand, had the two versions of family and so all of post-Mary life can be compared to pre-Mary and fuck him up and give him those issues. Gah! I'm being woefully inarticulate, but hopefully you know what I'm trying to say.
I also didn't see Dean dropping the amulet into the trash as abandonment of Sammy. I read it as a total abandonment of hope. And in a way this nicely places Sam back into the role of 'brother with faith' that we saw in 'Houses of the Holy' which I hope will pave the way for Sam's self-redemption. He needs to get pas the place where he feels like he shouldn't be in heaven.
Did anyone else think that Pamela's maybe you should give in to Michael was just a little off and creepy? Something going on there on clunky dialogue?
Kurt Fuller is awesome. Y/Y?
Castiel's mirroring of Dean in this episode worked really well.
"It's like Disneyland but without the anti-semitism" BWAH HA HA My favourite line.
Cinematography FTW!
I'm unsure about Joshua. Liked the actor, but magical gardener seems a tad problematic.
Oh man, I think this is possibly the most thoughtful reaction to an episode I've ever had.
1. YAY SPN!!
2. YAY SAM!! SPN SUCKS!!
3. YAY DEAN!! WOOT SPN!!
I'd like to think I fall into camp one. But it's possible there's a shade of camp three. So WARNING FOR EMOTIONAL ATTACHMENT BIAS.
Which probably leads to my first thought which is - how much of an episode do you think is written with Jensen's awesome ability to do close-ups in mind? If I had that face/ability to work with when I was writing something, you'd be damn sure it would show up a lot. And it does. And I see this not as a knock against Jared and more just a yay for Jensen. So, bias...
I've got to say, as sad and as hopeless as this episode was, I thought it was great. I know camp twoers were seeing Sam's memories as a way to further pull Sam from any emotional arc this season and as a dig against him, but I really saw it as consistent characterisation.
In Dean's 'I wuv hugs' [AWWWWWWW] memory, although it wasn't perfect, it was family and home and love and safety and Sam wasn't there. Sam didn't experience it. Sam was excluded from it. Sam's notion of family is all post John turns into a hunter. Yes he had Dean but it also had violence and abandonment and the fundamental notion that hunting comes first [again, I'll reiterate that this is fartherly learnings, not what he got from Dean, but Dad shapes the family] and he saw that version of family and thought 'meh'. Dean, on the other hand, had the two versions of family and so all of post-Mary life can be compared to pre-Mary and fuck him up and give him those issues. Gah! I'm being woefully inarticulate, but hopefully you know what I'm trying to say.
I also didn't see Dean dropping the amulet into the trash as abandonment of Sammy. I read it as a total abandonment of hope. And in a way this nicely places Sam back into the role of 'brother with faith' that we saw in 'Houses of the Holy' which I hope will pave the way for Sam's self-redemption. He needs to get pas the place where he feels like he shouldn't be in heaven.
Did anyone else think that Pamela's maybe you should give in to Michael was just a little off and creepy? Something going on there on clunky dialogue?
Kurt Fuller is awesome. Y/Y?
Castiel's mirroring of Dean in this episode worked really well.
"It's like Disneyland but without the anti-semitism" BWAH HA HA My favourite line.
Cinematography FTW!
I'm unsure about Joshua. Liked the actor, but magical gardener seems a tad problematic.
Oh man, I think this is possibly the most thoughtful reaction to an episode I've ever had.
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Date: 2010-04-06 07:22 pm (UTC)That's true about the amulet! But I think at this point Sam's seen enough of Dean's head-space to [hopefully!] not be upset by it! But then I'm hearing stuff coming out the cons of things getting worse before they get better...OUCHY :(
Hahahaha. The show does cause crazy-making thoughts :D But I agree that Sam never thought of Dean like John.
Kurt Fuller rules.
He didn't blink? Man, I failed on noticing that. *sigh* I'm gonna have to rewatch... *BEAMS*
LOL. I understand exactly.